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out today, still no rally for stocks. is it really still all about the fiscal cliff for investors right now? let's talk about that in our clo"closing bell" exchange. steve liesman will have breaking news momentarily. steve, do you have that? >> yes, i do. what we have is a report from the new york fed on consumer finance. what the news shows is that overall, consumer credit outside of real estate is up just a bit. most of that, by the way, is student loan debt, being up about $42 billion inside that $2.7 trillion number. overall, mortgage debt is down and overall debt is down. the basic gist of the details, bill, is that consumer credit continues to decline overall. delinquencies are down and bankruptcies are down. balance sheet repair continues. a little bit more willingness of the consumer to take on some debt and a lot of it -- >> that's very interesting, steve. let me ask you something, david. >> i want to make one more point, which is that when you talk about how much the dow is down today, it should be down more because the rally we didn't have from the better economic news
the late-day selloff? most on the street blaming these words out of washington about fiscal cliff. >> there's been little progress with the republicans, which is a disappointment to me. they've talked some happy talk about doing revenues, but we only have a couple weeks to get something done. so we have to get away from the happy talk and start talking about specific things. >> as we head into the fiscal cliff negotiations, my advice to the president would be seems like our friends on the other side are having some difficulty turning off the campaign. we need to sit down and work this matter out. >> behind closed doors. even with the fiscal cliff looming over the markets, our own jeff cox with cnbc.com says there's a growing bit of optimism about the outlook for next year. take a look at some of the predictions from some of the street's biggest names regarding the s&p 500 for next year. it's quite a chapg for morgan stanley, by the way, whose 2012 forecast was for the s&p to close at 1167 on december 31 of this year. >> wow. they're expecting a mega rally next year. >> he hates having to co
. >>> welcome to "the closing bell." we're at the new york stock exchange. it's as the fiscal cliff turns here on wall street yet again. we're less than an hour away from completing what could wind up being a dramatic comeback on wall street. >> it is feeling like a soap opera. i'm michelle caruso-cabrera. maria bartiromo will be back tomorrow. the dow had been down more than 100 points earlier in the session but came storming back after encouraging fiscal cliff talk from washington. listen. >> it's time for the president and democrats to get serious about the spending problem that our country has. but i'm optimistic that we can continue to work together to avert this crisis and sooner rather than later. >> i believe that both parties can agree on a framework that does that in the coming weeks. in fact, my hope is to get this done before christmas. >> wow. that's optimism. there you go. right now the dow jones industrial average is higher by 72 points. 12,950. the nasdaq is also in positive territory by about 11 points. the s&p 500, and you can see the same intraday pattern all three sessions,
off the fiscal cliff. this is "special report." ♪ ♪ >> bret: good evening. i'm bret baier. is it a negotiating ploy or really what president obama beliefs can happen? the president may be going down a new path tonight in deficit reduction efforts. it's a path that is sure to lead to many obstacles from the other side. chief white house correspondent ed henry has the new developments in a time sensitive story. >> in a dramatic move today, president obama seemed to be trying to split the budget talks to two pieces. suggesting he and lawmakers come up with spending cuts next year after they avoid the fiscal cliff, by extending middle class tax cuts and raising taxes on the rich. >> it would give us more time than next year to work together. on a comprehensive plan to bring down the deficit, streamline our tax system. do in a balanced way. >> the president apparent shift away from spending and tax altogether now in a big deal could increase the chances of a market rattling fall off the cliff. since the republicans want spending cuts included. >> republicans are willing to put
>>> good morning. i'm chris jansing. two big showdowns today on capitol hill over the fiscal cliff and ambassador susan rice. both of these have been escalating, and on the fiscal cliff especially the clock is definitely ticking. let me give you a rundown of what's happening in the next couple hours. first, ambassador rice is meeting with two republican senators today. right now she's in with susan collins of maine. later she'll meet with bob corker. yesterday, too, she was on the hill defending herself over her comments following the benghazi attack, but the gop leaders only seemed more entrenched in their opposition. in addition, anytime now house democrats and house republicans will hold separate news conferences to talk about their closed-door meet ings on the fiscal cliff. at 11:30, president obama will make remarks at the white house surrounded by middle class americans who he says would see their taxes go up if congress can't make a deal. later he's hosting big business leaders to talk about ways to cut the deficit. joining me to talk about this, "washington post" political
to u.s. leaders negotiating over the so- called fiscal cliff about the serious financial impact looming on the horizon. that's where we begin this morning. how confident are you about the state of the u.s. economy? what steps are you taking to prepare for the potential impact if the u.s. goes off the fiscal cliff? give us a call this morning. you can also catch up with us on all your favorite social media sites, twitter or facebook. or e-mail us. thismorning to you on wednesday, november 21. we are talking about federal reserve chairman ben bernanke's comments yesterday about the fiscal cliff, and getting your thoughts on bthe u.s. economy. and this headline -- also, in the financial times -- to tell little bit more about ben bernanke's , and sister day we turn to david clarke of "politico," their financial services editor. thanks for joining us. guest: thanks for having me. host: what is making the most waves from his speech? guest: in the past he has warned that congress and the president's path to take care of the fiscal cliff. yesterday he said it is not simply doing it but how they
a forecast for cyber monday sales. we of course continue to watch the fiscal cliff count down. lawmakers have been trying to convince the naub they are willing to compromise. they return to capitol hill today. >> everything should be on the table. >> bring entitlement reform into the conversation. >> a group of corporate executives are calling on congress to rise above partisan politics to try to find some sort of a solution. we have a lot to talk about with gleg brown and we'll start that in just a moment, but first over to andrew. >>> finance ministers are trying to unfreeze the second bailout package for greece, but first they must agree on how to cut massive debt to a more sustainable level. we'll head to london for details on that. and playing down a deal talk, tom joyce saying his country's currently if talks with at least two firms on a possible sale of its largest business unit. but would only pursue a deal if it created value to shareholders and clients. and mexico's anti-corruption body says it has found no irregularities in its probe of permits given to walmart. two audits still un
and into year end. >> well, you have the fiscal cliff. you have the political class. they have to work out some of these budget issues, but sort of beyond the near term, maria, i think they're two underpinnings that are supporting the market. they were in place preelection. hopefully you sort of get through some of these political negotiations. you get back to some of the better underlying fundamental news and some of this volatility starts to dissipate and we start to turn higher. >> rick, you agree with that in terms of the catalyst for this market? you think we get a deal done by year end? >> i don't. i don't. i don't agree with much of what's out there. i think we can get the framework for a grand bargain before the end of the year, but i think that's 50/50. and many analysts, economists, and politicos don't believe there's grand bargains in the cards at all. i do. i think there's so many issues with congress out that i think are going to come to the table to make both sides have a pretty good handle over the other. i think debt ceiling is a big deal. i think that mr. boehner has talked abo
the fiscal cliff is or what it means for their paycheck. >> they aren't worried. we'll see how numbers pan out. should be a big shopping weekend for the retailers. cyber-monday is around the corner. this is a big three days. it's funny. cyber-monday first came about when people didn't have high-speed internet. they would have to go to work and shop because it wasn't common. now it's common to have high-speed internet access at home and still you have cyber-monday. >> just as a point of note here, street signs are not allowed to say cyber-monday. i don't believe it. it's five bucks in the beer jar. you already owe 15 bucks. >> it's not "street signs." >> we play by a different set of rules here at post 9. >> we play by melissa's rules here at post 9. >> yours too, david. >> mine too. absolutely. we will be watching any number of retailers in terms of stocks. we'll see how some of the laggers do today. jcpenney. we'll be talking to the chief merchandise officer at sears later in the program. interesting to see given how poor the report was there. >> don't we have the former ceo of jcpenney o
. >>> dangerous times how the fiscal cliff could affect people in california, stay tuned for ktvu channel 2 morning news. this is ktvu channel 2 morning news. >>> good morning, thank you for joining us this wednesday november 28th, i am pam cook. >> weather is changing and we are on storm watch right now and we have the first of several storms roaring into the bay area and expect rain and strong winds happening now. we have live team coverage and our crews are in san francisco who are at the richmond san rafael bridge. tara moriarty is watching the morning commute, where is that storm, we can feel it, right? >> now some of the heavier rain, we have to go back here but some of the heavier bands are beginning to inch into the north bay and you can see northern county as well as rushing river, we will keep an eye on that because it will be one of the focuses of the heavier rain nothing too bad yet but up into mendocino county, there will be heavy duty rainfall totals and so far there are only 3 / 100s for the south bay. coming up, mark is live at the richmond san rafael bridge, it lo
a baby was inside, we will tell you what leads police have. >>> and how the fiscal cliff could affect long-term benefits here in the golden state, it is all ahead on the ktvu channel 2 morning news. >>> this is ktvu channel 2 morning news. >>> good morning, thank you for waking up with us this morning november 28th, i am pam cook. >> we are on storm watch this morning, the first of several storms will roar into the bay area, you should expect strong winds and we have team coverage for you. ktvu channel 2 morning news tara moriarty is watching the traffic and it is the first for you. where is the storm system now. >> right off the coast. it is producing some light rain and it is coming in, in about two hours and the heavy rain is offshore. it is merging and it is going to pack a pretty good punch here. it looks like it is heading towards the marin coast and we will keep an eye on it and the focus will be the rushing river and for now let's to go to mark, i think this is the first time we have worked together, how are things at the san rafael bridge. >> yes, it is an honor. we have had
a single share of stock even if he was guaranteed the u.s. goes off the fiscal cliff. just wait until you hear who he thinks should be the treasury secretary. >> we'll begin of course with the deal of the day. conagra foods has agreed to acquire ralcorp for $5 billion. $90 a share in cash. 28% premium to the closing price on monday. kayla tausche reported on potential for a deal between the two companies back in 2011. it creates the largest private label food company in north america. this is a big deal. >> yes, it is. it's big in size in terms of what we've seen in this market. look how excited he is. and they finally got it done. it's been one as you pointed out that was around in 2011. they couldn't get it done. that is conagra. they walked away. ralcorp stock price fell dramatically. they split the post cereal division from ralcorp. the two trade separately. so you did have a company here that perhaps became a little more -- i wouldn't say vulnerable. not as if they were committed to selling. the board composition changed. you have had activist shareholder get on there. that was very
is pulled back. dagen: thank you. if congress is unable to prevent the fiscal cliff, our lawmakers could send the entire world economy into a recession. steve moore is here, senior economics writer at the "wall street journal." he joins us now from washington, d.c. will they prevent it, steve? >> the good news is, no one should ever listen to what they say. but, you know, these go sheesh and keep rolling on. my sources on capitol hill say that there is still a lot of gridlock there. the main thing, in my opinion, can they reach a deal on these taxes that does not require all of the requirements of business to go up? dagen: do think that happened, because again, there are so many taxes that we need to worry about, the lawmakers never fixed it for 2012. if they do not fix that, it will hit 33 million americans. the payroll tax cut. will that go away, because, again, it was temporary ones, temporary twice and it will still be a higher tax. >> im so glad you brought up the amt. nobody has really been focusing on this. that would be bigger than even extending the bush tax cuts. you are talkin
is that we get a fix for the fiscal cliff maybe early january, maybe we go over the cliff for a couple days. and i think the political pressure then to fix it would be intense because of the amt shock. normally 4.5 million pay pay alternative minimum taxes. if we didn't fix this on the 2012 income, what's due in 2013 will be additional taxes of several thousand dollars by an extra 28 million households. 33 million instead of 4.5 million on 2012 taxes. if you're going to file your tax return in january and you expect a refind, if you're in the 75,000 to 300,000 income bracket, forget about it if they don't fix that amt. so i think senators will get calls from a good portion of 28 billion households saying what are you doing raising my taxes. i never withheld. are you going to penalize me because you didn't fix what you fix every year? i think that amt shock is going to drive -- if we go over the fiscal cliff, it will drive a very, very fast fix. but then we'll just have a small bargain later this year. there's not going to be a grand war bargain. >> that could be the worst case scenario is j
the fiscal cliff, that once again put pressure on the markets. that's when things turned down yesterday. you'll see in europe, barely budging at this point. in france, the cac is up by about a point. the ftse is down by less than five points. in germany, the dax is up by less than three points. overnight in asia, you'll see that in japan, the nikkei was up by about .8 of a percent. the shanghai composite up by about 1%. the hang seng was up by 1.4%. oil prices also up slightly, up about 72 cents. not near the higher levels that we had seen because of the concerns in the middle east. 84.7 is where wti stands. the ten-year note is yielding 1.661%. we do have those numbers coming out. the dollar sup across the board. euro is at 1.28. gold prices this morning are indicated up just barely up by about $2.60. >>> let's go across the pond. ross westgate is standing by for us in london. ross, good morning to you. >> good morning, andrew. good to see you ahead of thanksgiving. becky called it. we're pretty flat here in europe. the dow jones being outpaced a little bit more. as you say, the focus very
of these folks are saying if we get a compromise as far as the fiscal cliff, by the end of the year this event means higher oil and gas prices, so there is a lot of indecision down here on the floor, but a volatile market with the middle east playing out. melissa: thank you so much. just in time for black friday, to survey highlights what we can expect consumers to spend this holiday season. rich edson has the story. >> americans will spend a little bit more this year, a just-released survey of holiday shopping says. the credit union national association of consumer federation of america said retail can expect a better holiday than last year, though not much better. >> our basic result is more optimistic than last year, the strongest results in the last four years, however still does not suggest a booming holiday season, but a continued improvement from the last few years. speak of a state college spending to increase from three and a half to 4% over 2011. the numbers behind that, they will spend less than last year. analysts say plenty of shoppers say they will spend less and never do. 12% ad
the fiscal cliff. is the union clash with businesses a bigger threat to jobs? from protesting wal-mart on the busiest shoppings day of the year and targeting one frt busiest u.s. airports on one of the busiest travel days of the year. we'll see big labor's travel play, a blow to a chance for anyone's recovery. hi, everyone, i'm brenda buttner, this is bulls and bears, and here we go the bulls and bears, gary b smith, tobin smith, jonas max ferris along with jim la camp and steve murphy, welcome to everybody. jim, growing union clashes with job creators, growing concerns about jobs? >> absolutely. look, every time you make it harder for an employer to hire somebody they're going to hire less people. we're already seeing it in the jobs numbers. look, obamacare has already cost a tremendous amount of jobs and since the president was reelected and it became apparent that obamacare was coming back in, we've seen the layoffs accelerate and now the unions are trying to kick businesses at a time when bunesses are hting and at a time when they're uncertain about labor costs and this is goi
busy over the weekend. talking about the fiscal cliff. everyone comes back to work . wonder if they will get to work and cut the deals. republicans made it clear they are willing to budge when it comes to the 20 year pledge not to raise taxes that glover norquist had everyone sign before they took office. >> steve: grover norquist has hundreds of republicans to do that. clearly with the fiscal cliff comment and automatic spending cuts and taxes go up on everybody. something has to be done. the feeling is that it will happen two now. republicans have beenadament and said we can't raise taxes on anybody. and glover norquist said as long as you don't raise tax rates that is okay. and lindsay graham on that. >> i agree we shouldn't raise rates but i think grover is wrong to cap and buy down debt. what do you do with the money and i will violate the pledge for the good of the country only if the democrats do entitlement reform. >> gretchen: i think the pledge thing is good and bad. if you are a republican and believe that raising taxes is the wrong they think that and fine. but h
the looming fiscal cliff. >> i've got a pen. i'm ready to sign it. >> surrounded by middle income americans, mr. obama warned that if the bush tax cuts are allowed to expire january 1, every taxpayer would pay more next year. the president said that would cost a typical middle class family of four an extra $2200. >> that means less money for buying groceries, less money for filling prescriptions, less money for buying diapers. >> this morning republican house speaker john boehner said his colleagues are willing to discuss new tax revenues but only if democrats agree to new spending cuts. >>> a bay area national guard crew just headed out on a rescue mission. >> steve paulson is back with more on when today's rain will end. he says there are bigger storms ahead. >> it was really close to their backs. if that was higher, i think it would -- >> you will hear more from a terrified south bay resident after bullets were fired into her room with small children inside. on your prepaid card? introducing chase liquid. the reloadable card with no fee reloads and withdrawals at chase atms. all for one
of a compromise as we head for the fiscal cliff? senator lindsay graham, one of the latest high-profile republicans that says he will break the longstanding pledge regarding taxes and says he will do it for the country, but only if democrats are willing to make reforms on entitledment programs, medicare and medicaid and social security. that is big if. good morning, hope your turkey was great. martha: good morning, everybody, i'm martha maccallum. you've got this. congressman peter king and now senator bob corker say they will ignore the decades old pledge that was signed by 241 house members and senators. he says he believes it is a huge game-changer. >> when you're $16 trillion in debt the only pledge we should make to each other is to avoid becoming greece. republicans should put revenue on the table. we're this far in debt. we don't generate enough revenue. capping deductions will help generate revenue. raising tack rates will hurt job creation. bill: this is the heart of the matter. stuart varney, host of "varney & company". morning to you, sir? >> this is a real shift. one
on thanksgiving day? we're going to get some new perspective. the fiscal cliff, might a new wrinkle make it even tougher for the two parties to make a deal? it is one of the big hits of the season, the new film about abraham lincoln, and coming up, a unique take from doris kearns goodwin who wrote the book. imagine if this were your neighbor. one holiday display is drawing a lot of attention. that is in our one-minute playback. wow. good morning, everyone. welcome to "weekends with alex witt." let's get to what's happening right now out there. we have some new numbers today. as retailers begin to calculate black friday sales and whether it paid off to open on thanksgiving. all that, plus today is small business saturday, and cyber monday, of course, happens in just two days. nbc's michelle franzen is in n manhattan. >> alex, we've gotten through the first wave, the black friday, include being the early start that began on thanksgiving evening. so how did everything turn out? well, retailers say so far, so good. they saw a wave of people coming through, a rush of shoppers going through those do
about whether the consumer has any of the same concerns about the fiscal cliff or anything else. >> it was a tick up that was going upward. and it came off a little bit the initial readings. so maybe a little bit of cliff is sinking into the consumer. but when we checked on on four key metrics, wages, unemployment, housing and what was the fourth one, debt levels, consumer is in better shape this year than last year. >> what is the chance that right now we haven't lost confidence among consumers and so people are out there this thanksgiving weekend buying, maybe next weekend they're buying, but as the fiscal cliff conversation really hits a ahead in mid-december, that somehow confidence starts to drift. >> seems like an upper income kind of concern given the volatility of the stock market. mass market, as long as they're living pay dlek to paycheck, they're buying for their kids. christmas doesn't stop because of what's happening in washington. >> i think consumer sentiment can be fragile. it's curious that it hasn't sunk in more now and maybe that's because it has not been a na
? >> yeah. they'll mess around for as long as they possibly can and possibly pass a fiscal cliff relief bill or something lining those lines at the final hour. >> do you think it goes on, that it's a long term solution? my personal solution is they find a band-aid that may give us the qe-3 type relief. >> but the question is what your long-term outlook is. if you're betting against u.s. growth, betting against -- or betting there will be a huge issues in the coming years on these -- on the deficit issue, you may want to keep it off the table. >>> there's a third area there. i don't talk to anybody, steve or our guest, who doesn't think the u.s. can easily ramp up growth. the real discussion i don't think is the true u.s. economy. i thinkist the moguling being throw in front of it, our self-inflected issues, you know, last time around we sequestration. are we going to have sequestration 2? of course we'll put a band-aid, but we need leverage to have reform predicated to surrender on the band-aid. >>> we've got to go, guys. i've got to go with this. we've got to move on. this is the last hour
phenomenon. and many will be mourning the larry mag man. and the taxing fiscal cliff. corvers are staying that republicaning are folding under pressure. steve forbes joins us. and the miracle on worthington street. and a massive explosion rocks a massachusetts. and all on america's news head quarters, don't go away. with verizon. hurry in this saturday and sunday for great deals. likehe lucid by lg, free. or the galaxy nexus by samsung, free. this weekend, get the best deals on the best devices on the best network. exclusively at verizon. >> welcome back. later today investigators are assessing the damage done to buildings near a strip club that exploded yesterday. a national gas explosion leveled the building. 18 people were injured there and first responders had evacuated the building when it exploded. listen up. there is a way law makers can avoid the fiscal cliff. the answer is going to require compromise and may include three tread words. some tax indreeses. if president obama want to go back to the clinton era. he needs to follow president obama's lead that included deregulation and
to keep pushing for his ideas on how to avoid the fiscal cliff looming ated end of the year. all this -- at the end of this year. the president wants to extend tax cuts for middle-income americans while letting them expire for those people who earn more than $250,000 a year. coming up at 7:45, whether republicans and democrats are any closer to a deal. >>> wellge the nation's lowest housing -- well, the nation's lowest housing rate is in the south bay. only 3% are vacant. that translates to just 28,000 empty properties out of almost 651,000. nationwide apartment rents are expected to go up again next year. the national association of realtors rents will go up 4.6% because demand exceed supply. in 2014/2015, rents will probably go up more than 4%. nationwide they went up 4.1% this year. but here in the bay area, they are up more than 13%. >>> it is 7:5. a crane had to be us -- it's 7:35. a crane had to be used for a sink holt. these pictures are from a -- sinkhole. these pictures are from a neighborhood blog. it's not clear what caused the sinkhole or when it might be fixed. >>> l
public support for his plan for the fiscal cliff crisis. >> reporter: dave, the president is meeting with ceos, including those who backed mitt romney and then he will meet with middle-class families. he's trying to sell the plans for the fiscal cliff, those that kick in at the end of the month. now, investors grow increasingly worried about whether congress should be able to avert the crisis. democrats and republics are deadlocked on a range of issue including the president's plan to raise taxes. republicans say the proud should quit campaigning. >> he's back on the campaign trail, presumably doing what we're all familiar with. >> so to suggestion that we should -- now that the election is over stop talking to them about these vital issues, i think is bad add -- bad advice. >> reporter: reporting live from washington, d.c. alison burns, ktvu channel 2 news. >>> 400,000 unemployed californians are closely watching the fiscal cliff. that's because benefits are due to expire december 29th unless congress extends them. >>> well, texas city leaders are asking for advanced warning in the
that would avoid that potentially devastating fiscal cliff that is looming over the u.s. economy right now. the president is meeting with small business owners at the white house today. he had a series of meetings with different business leaders over the last week. despite the warnings that the talks are stalling on capitol hill stuart varney joins me now, host of "varney & company" on fox business network. >> good morning, martha. bill:. martha: what are you hearing how this is going? >> it is impasse basically. the republicans said yesterday they accommodated the democrats they will agree to get more money from wealthy people from higher taxes but mitch mcconnell, senate republican leader, he says there has been no similar compromise from the democrats or the president. he says they are still holding out for higher tax rates on the rich and he says the radical left is prescenting the democrats and president and agreeing to serious reform from medicare. martha, i have to tell you. i got new numbers from medicare, from trustees, actually. medicare has to pay out in the future $42 trillion.
return to capitol hill tomorrow to try to work on a deal to avoid that fiscal cliff you've heard about a time or two. >> clayton: yeah, peter doocy live in washington this morning with the latest on where these negotiations stand and we can expect, i guess, tomorrow, peter, they get back to work after thanksgiving? >> reporter: that's right, clayton, so far just one meeting we know about the small, but bipartisan group of lawmakers trying to speteer the country away from the fiscal cliff and represent their parties. right after the bat after the first meeting speaker boehner told us he's ready to agree to new revenue in a deal, but the deal needs to be balanced. >> to show to your seriousness we've put revenue on the table, as long as it's accompanied by significant spending cuts. and while we're going to continue that revenue on the table. it's going to be incumbent for my colleagues to show the american people that we're serious about cutting spending and solving our fiscal dilemma. >> democrats, obviously, control the white house and the senate, but they still need the republican-le
have an admiral pass in my pocket. who is with me. meanwhile, we have a fiscal cliff to climb. her meetings with senators mccain and graham and ayotte created more questions than answers. ambassador susan rice taking her case to two more republicans today. peter doocy has more. >> you are right, brian. ambassador rice will meet with susan collins from maine and bob corker from tennessee . ahead of his meeting that what worries him most about ambassador rice she may be more concerned about delivering the party line than pressuring the administration when it might be off base. three other republican senators met with the embattled ambassador and that meeting did little to quiet their harsh criticism of her job performance. >> i am more concerned than i was before that the 15th of september explan of how four americans died in benghazi, libya. >> why she wouldn't have asked i am the person who doesn't know about this and going on every show. it is not only the talking points unclassified but part of her responsibility as the ambassador . united nations she reviewed more than that. >>
hope so. what i would like to do is to say that the fiscal cliff issue we have been talking about all they hear -- all week, is really important and we have to make progress right now towards a sustainable budget. a lot of experts sitting here about why that is important but based on our work there's a much broader competitiveness problem facing the u.s. right now. has been building for decades, it is not a recession, it has been building for decade-sapping the ability of the american economy to grow, and the average american to rise. to make the u.s. less competitive, less attractive for business, we go back to the fiscal cliff discussion over and over again because unless we get the economy really moving and growing in a long run, these budget problems will occur over and over again. we have identified eight areas where we find, these things would move the needle in a reasonable time frame, two or three or four years we start to see impact and there's quite bipartisan support. and the sustainable budget compromise. number 2, easing immigration now. we need a broader immigration refo
of the fiscal cliff. i don't know whether we can count on them to do it or not, but they're working on it. and we have the whole team reassembles here today. peter ogburn. >> hey. >> bill: good to you see. dan henning has been here. >> i been here man. >> bill: checking in on the phones and siprion bolling been here the whole time either. i was in turkey in istanbul. a great, great city. >> i'm going to make the obvious joke that you went to turkey for turkey. >> bill: yes. no turkey. i saw one turkey in the market in a poultry shop in the spice market, a dead turkey so they do exist. but it is a fabulous beautiful, beautiful, city. i have no idea what went on. >> yeah, if you are going to go out of the country like that just clock off. >> bill: well, believe me that's what we family cup finals last night. [ technical difficulties ] >> bill: kongman, jesse jackson, jr. has retired. john stanton will be with us. great lineup today, but first. >> some of the headlines making news on this monday. president obama and his daughter went out on saturday to a block store in arlington, v
to fall. >>> and we are just about to fall off that he can not mix fiscal cliff, who the president is depending on to get that deal done. >>> well, good morning, it is a brand-new day, november 27th, i am dave clark. >> it is definitely lighter fog. >> yesterday was really bad but today there are still a couple of pockets and the system will be here tomorrow. temperatures will start off 40s and 50s and we will and up in the 60s but we will have more on this coming up in about accept minutes. here is tara. >>> you can see traffic flowing well and at the san mateo bridge, we don't have nearly as much fog as we did yesterday and we have smooth sailing as you head westbound into foster city. let's head back to the desk. >>> we have new information on that police standoff that has blocked people from returning home to treasure island and christian captain has more. it is certainly changing and unfolding. >> reporter: yes, we just moved from san francisco to oakland and if you look, the information sign is illuminated over the bridge advising people there is no access to treasure island
come next year alone for the average family of four if the nation is to go over the fiscal cliff. you know, there was one republican, you talked about the glimmers of hope for a compromise. it's tom cole of oklahoma who was quoted yesterday and this morning saying, you know what? let's go along with the president. you heard the sound bite. the president once again calling for congress to pass a tax cut for everybody making under $250,000 and come back to the rest later but the problem is, tom cole doesn't have the votes and neither does john boehner even if he wanted to put that on the floor so the goal of the pr campaign, the machinery kicking in to gear at the white house is to turn the voettes, get votes. swing counties, you know, the election may be over but the campaign continues. there are republicans around in these counties around philadelphia, three of the four districts, as a matter of fact, who can be counted only as swing voters in the house of representatives and that's the battleground where the fight is playing out, steve. >> okay. thanks as always. >>> now bringing in
negotiate a deal to try to avoid the coming fiscal cliff. our chief white house correspondent ed henry is live at the white house. so what are we expecting from the president today, ed? >> reporter: jon he is going to meet with business leaders as you say later this hour. he will come out and talk about where he believes these fiscal cliff talks are. you remember on friday he will be in pennsylvania for essentially a campaign-style event to try and pressure republicans to move forward in these talks. the white house also has this new twitter campaign they unveiled today, the hashtag, my 2 k, as in $2000 believes middle class families will get if the president's push to extend bush-era tax cuts for the middle class to continue. republicans have been saying that is all about campaigning. jay carney, the white house spokesman says it is about engaging the public. take a listen. >> the president spoke with speaker of the house boehner and senate majority leader reid over the weekend. our team is continuing discussions with their congressional counterparts on this matter, and it is entirely
all, he's trying to reach a bipartisan deal to avoid the fiscal cliff? >> right. look, i would be surprised if the president put her forward given everything that we've seen. there were one or two scenarios, right? either she was, this was a tryout for her and she failed, or it was the case that they sent her out on purpose as the president suggested when he said they sent out susan rice who, quote, had nothing to do with benghazi. gregg: right. >> they sent her out on purpose to basically do little other than to mouth administration talking points. in either case, she comes out of those five appearances looking like she doesn't know what she was talking about in the best case scenario, or she was being dishonest in the worst case scenario. gregg: but, steve, look, here's the deal, do republicans really want this fight over secretary of state? time magazine made the following point, we'll put it up on the screen: gregg: the optics favor the white house. >> look, who cares about the optics? if she went out and told a story which wasn't true, which everybody now can see, you have
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and now we have the fiscal cliff issue that is facing congress and i think it's a real open question about whether we're going to have a politically induced recession. we're 40, 50 days away. you see a lot of turbulence in the markets over the next months but this is a political crisis that is going to be bring about an economic crisis if it doesn't get solved. but for the entire history of the country people do profoundly disagree with each other, have been and sometimes don't like each other very much have been able to sit across from each other and do the business of the american people. and that's what the moment requires now. on the question of screaming at each other we should understand that there are tremendous market incentives for people to go on tv and attack each other and insult each other verbally and you make a lot of money doing that. for the most part, moderate reasonable voices aren't rewarded with media platforms in the country anymore. and you see a tone and i think that this is a larger cultural issue. it manifests itself in politics but i don't think politics drives i
waiting and watching to see if our officials can keep us from going over the so-called fiscal cliff, more specifically, that's a series of tax increases and spending cuts together set to go into effect on new year's day if they cannot agree on a budget before then. president obama and congressional leaders have been talking and possibly to come this week. it's november 26th. they don't have a lot of time. peter doocy with the news from washington. >> harris, republicans and democrats alike think that closing loopholes to raise revenue is a good idea. republicans are resisting the idea that inleasing tax rates on the wealthy will steer the country away from the fiscal cliff even though suspects insist it will. >> i would be very much opposed to raising tax rates, but i believe that we can close a lot of lop holes. >> they have to go up, real or effective tax rates, there are ways of doing this and secondly, we have to gross loopholes. >> lindsey graham is okay with new revenue and willing to cap deductions to get it, but only if democrats agree to reform entitlements like social security a
at different levels. we are now facing biggest threat through sequestered. janet mentioned the fiscal cliff in one part of the fiscal cliff is these across-the-board spending cuts to take effect january 2nd. it's going to be an 8.2% across-the-board cut in education, job training and health, housing, fbi, air traffic controllers from the food safety, entire range of domestic programs. for education if you count headstart, which is at the department of health and human services a $4.8 billion cut would be the largest education cuts ever in the history of the country. that would just move us -- essentially move us backwards on whether the goal is closing achievement gaps come increasing high school graduation rates, increasing college access and college completion. our biggest challenge in the short-term this lame-duck lame-duck session this to work together with groups like the urban league and national council to come up with a balanced approach to deficit reduction. as genocide, as people who can pay more to do so without balancing the budget on the backs of children and students and worki
the likelihood of one of the 20 the people -- >> primaries again. now let's talk about the fiscal cliff and house and senate leaders expected to meet with the president next week and hopefully negotiations will continue. staffers reportedly have made little progress over the last week. politico is writing this saying that the gop's opening offer, the sources said would freeze the bush era tax rates, change the inflation can clated for entitlement programs, keep the estate tate at 2012 levels and overhaul of the tax code and not provide a revenue target. martin, if this is the starting point, if that's the starting point -- are republicans as serious about compromise as they claim? >> that offer's like the sticker price at a car dealership. >> with room. >> you know you won't pay that and then the big question unanswered now is will republicans budge on rates or revenue? we have to distinguish. republicans are open to increasing tax revenue by a cap in deductions, closing loopholes and so far they haven't shown willingness to moving tax rates up for upper income americans. do they talk about entit
. >>> they are pushing to avoid the so called fiscal cliff looming at the end of the year. all week long they have meetings with small business leaders and on friday, the president will visit a toy track are you in virginia -- toy factory in virginia. he will continue to push tax cuts for middle income americans and letting them expire for people who make more than $250,000 a year. they coming up, more on hurricane katrina. they are asking for $42 billion in aid. that includes 9 billion to prepare for the next big storm. last month's storm flooded the subway train system, and knocked out power for days. >>> get ready, we are about to get hit with several storms which are taking aim on the bay area. live with how to prepare and what to prepare for, alex? >> reporter: well, good morning, the north bay is expected to get hammered by a series of storms and the residents are getting prepared an auction see the sand bags are being filled and they are making these bags for the flooding that is certainly a possibility with all the rain that is expected. lots of people will be stopping by here throughout t
the fed chairman to the president about thefully -- about the fiscal cliff. [ male announcer ] this december, remember -- you can stay in and share something... ♪ ♪ ...or you can get out there with your friends and actually share something. ♪ the lexus december to remember sales event is on, offering some of our best values of the year. this is the pursuit of perfection. offering some of our best values of the year. >>> consumer sentiment stalls at the end of november as uncertainty grew grew. the dow is -- uncertainty grew. the dow is up 19. nasdaq down, 1. s&p is flat. >>> the labor department released the weekly jobless report a day early because of the thanksgiving holiday tomorrow. first-time claims fell by 45 41,000 but the -- 41,000. but the number remains higher than expected because of hurricane sandy. 410,000 americans filed for initial jobless benefits last week. economists had expected the number to be higher. >>> and hewlett-packard's stock is up about .5 right now. this is after a 12% drop yesterday morning. investors started the selloff after hp's announc
- called fiscal cliff. it airs tonight it it o'clock eastern-- a o'clock here on c-span. >> in january, our first week we were sworn into office, the president ask for an increase in the debt ceiling. i made clear at that time there would be no increase in the debt ceiling without significant cuts in spending and changes to the way we spend the american people's money. shortly after that, i was in new york and gave a speech and outlined i thought the spending cuts should exceed the amount of debt limit increase and there should be no taxes as part of this agreement. when you look at what we have been able to achieve, we have met those to standards that have been outlined. the american assistance it is time for america to deal with its spending problem and we made promises to the american people that our kids and grandkids just cannot afford. in addition, we of work with our members and listen to the american people. we have a real interest in making sure we don't get into this spot again. and we ought to have a balanced budget an image to the constitution. i think if you look at the structu
he speaks russian. >> steve: and talking about the fiscal cliff. the private talks are accelerating. and the president of the united states called mr. boehner and mr. reid over the weekend. it looks like the president is going to continue the push and meet with the ceo's tomorrow. they upon meet with irskin bowles. he was the co-chair of simpson-bowles commission . mr. bowles had a great plan. he is a democrat, that offered up 800 billion in new revenue and overhaul the tax system and changes to medicare and that's why the republicans are asking the democrats to come in and explain your deal. this plan was hatched in 2010 and everyone walked away from it and now they call bowles back up? it is late. this is what the american people are upset about. nothing gets done. >> steve: we are a month from the cliff. >> gretchen: we could have avoided the cliff if they used the plan as a starting point. americans are upset nothing gets done. >> brian: norquist is the bad guy. you should walk away from grover norquest. he said you have enough money on capitol hill and stop asking us . he's bee
the next few weeks with this looming fiscal cliff. rick: i want to talk to you more about the negotiations over the fiscal cliff in a second, but as far as the consumer confidence part of it goes -- >> yeah. rick: -- where do you think that's coming from? is it just because the election's over in people naturally sort of start or to feel a little more confident no matter who wins? >> yeah, that's exactly right. people kind of happy all the negative advertising, i live in virginia, we were just deluged with negative ads against obama and romney and all the candidates for month after month, and now you're getting a little sense of relief that we're back to normalcy. rick: you know, okay. so the role that consumer confidence can play, because i remember talking to you, gee, must have been like 2009, and the president had just taken office, and the economy was really on a downward slide. >> right. rick: and consumer confidence was low, and a lot of people like you said that that was contributing to the slide, the fact that people had such anxiety about the economy. so conversely, if people are
like spoiled children during fiscal cliff negotiations. while only 28% believe lawmakers can be counted on to behave like responsible adults. chief white house correspondent ed henry has the joy of living and reporting amongst the children. i'm not sure what that makes you but you are a chief white house correspondent so what is the latest? >> reporter: there is a still a little kid in all of us, jenna. the bottom line the negotiations are obviously reefing a critical stage. white house is trading to take advantage of cyber monday, retail holiday today to put out the report you mentioned to suggest retailers will take a particular hit if they face these automatic tax increases and spending cuts that will be kicking in at the end of the year if there is no action by the white house and lawmakers on capitol hill working together. bottom line here, republicans like jeff sessions, the budget chairman in the senate, say they're willing to negotiate on all these tax rates, tax changes, et cetera, but they want to make sure there are spending cuts to go with them. take a listen. >> our democra
in washington with plenty to do trying to negotiate a solution to stave off the fiscal cliff. everyone was getting along last friday when all of the leaders met at the white house but now that it's time to deal things are getting a bit tougher. let's bring in david and steve. happy thanksgiving, guys. thanks for getting up early with us. >> good morning. >> first one to you, david, the staffers have told politico that these talks are off to a rough start and issue is, it's the same, the revenue, how to get it. what congressman tom cole said on "jansing and company" yesterday. >> important as to how you get that revenue. i was disappointed to see leader pelosi say it had to be higher rates or nothing. i don't think that's the way you begin a negotiation. >> what about the possibility of keeping the same rates but eliminating deductions for the wealthy in. >> i think that's a good potential suggestion. >> so you hear that, republicans have opened the door to revenue but not by raising taxes. is that going to be enough? might that be the compromised point? >> if you listen to the white ho
. >> this weekend talk with oklahoma senator tom coburn about the fiscal cliff, the affordable care act and the future of the republican party on "book tv"'s in depth. the senator written several books and reports including the latest, the debt bomb. join the conversation with calls, e-mails and tweets comements and for doctor, senator tom coy burn. sunday noon eastern on "book tv"'s in depth on c-span2. >>> up next, for-profit practitioners discuss the role of private enterprise in public education. they lose also look at the obama administration approach to education reform. that was hosted yesterday at the american enterprise institute in washington. it is 90 minutes. >> hi. welcome, thanks for joining us. whether you're here at home, hope everybody had a terrific thanksgiving. i know that we're just getting back and, so the energy level is probably going to be, mellow, which we'll make that work for us, since we're going to talk about what sometimes is contentious subject. today's panel is on the question of for-profits and federal education policy. this is a topic that we ad aei ha
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